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#bs "ceasefire". Snatching defeat from jaws of victory was
never more apt a description. #Ukraine regime has used time to
regroup, rearm - and is now set for major counteroffensive in
multiple locations, shored up Mariupol and others. End of the
beginning. Now the real civil war begins.
---Mark
Sleboda
Alexander Mercouris
RT,
7
September, 2014
It
is too late for decentralization, as E. Ukraine’s self-defense
forces want full independence from Kiev after its bloody military
campaign, international law expert Alexander Mercouris told RT. Kiev
now needs a ceasefire because it’s losing, he argued.
On
Friday, Kiev officials and representatives of the two self-proclaimed
republics in southeastern Ukraine agreed to a ceasefire as the
contact group met behind closed doors in Belarus.
Commenting
on the ceasefire, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said: “We
are ready to provide the significant steps, including
decentralization of power.”
However,
following the deaths and damage caused by Kiev's military offensive,
Mercouris believes that decentralization is no longer an option for
Eastern Ukrainians.
RT: Is
decentralization possible in these current circumstances?
Alexander
Mercouris: I
don’t think there is any prospect of that at all. The people who
are resisting the Ukrainian government have made quite clear that
their objective is full independence from Ukraine. If
decentralization was proposed in March or April, possibly many people
in eastern Ukraine, in this area of Donbass which has been fighting,
would have accepted it. After all the killing and all the
destruction, I don’t think there are any takers for that plan. And
I think, frankly, the reality is that Ukraine has lost Donbass.
Ukrainian servicemen ride on an
armoured vehicle in the southern coastal town of Mariupol September
5, 2014 (Reuters / Vasily Fedosenko)
RT: How
big of a role are Russia and Kiev’s western allies playing in all
of this?
AM: In
terms of Russia, I don’t think there is any doubt at all that it is
playing a certain political role. However, the important thing to
understand about the negotiations that happened today is that they
were between the Ukrainian government and the people it is fighting
in the east. It was not between the Ukrainian government and Russia.
President Poroshenko a couple of days ago tried to make a ceasefire
agreement with the Russians and Mr. Putin would have none of it,
because the Russian position is that they are not involved in this
conflict. If one goes to the other side of the equation – to the
Western powers – their policy throughout has been to support the
Ukrainian government as it tried to suppress the people of the east.
They have pretended in May, June, and July to negotiate with
Russians' various peace plans. But in reality they only became
interested in a peace proposal when it became clear that the
Ukrainians were going to lose and when it also became clear that
there was no support in the West for a military action to help the
Ukrainians.
RT: Is
decentralization possible in these current circumstances?
Alexander
Mercouris: I
don’t think there is any prospect of that at all. The people who
are resisting the Ukrainian government have made quite clear that
their objective is full independence from Ukraine. If
decentralization was proposed in March or April, possibly many people
in eastern Ukraine, in this area of Donbass which has been fighting,
would have accepted it. After all the killing and all the
destruction, I don’t think there are any takers for that plan. And
I think, frankly, the reality is that Ukraine has lost Donbass.
RT: How big of a role are Russia and Kiev’s western allies playing in all of this?
AM: In
terms of Russia, I don’t think there is any doubt at all that it is
playing a certain political role. However, the important thing to
understand about the negotiations that happened today is that they
were between the Ukrainian government and the people it is fighting
in the east. It was not between the Ukrainian government and Russia.
President Poroshenko a couple of days ago tried to make a ceasefire
agreement with the Russians and Mr. Putin would have none of it,
because the Russian position is that they are not involved in this
conflict. If one goes to the other side of the equation – to the
Western powers – their policy throughout has been to support the
Ukrainian government as it tried to suppress the people of the east.
They have pretended in May, June, and July to negotiate with
Russians' various peace plans. But in reality they only became
interested in a peace proposal when it became clear that the
Ukrainians were going to lose and when it also became clear that
there was no support in the West for a military action to help the
Ukrainians.
RT: Some
of the Western media have been spinning this truce in a completely
different way. Take for instance CNN, they just said that Poroshenko
laid out a peace plan with Russia. Is that how you see it?
AM: They
are spinning it completely wrong. The fact of the matter is that
Russians have never said they are interested in annexing Donbass.
They have made it absolutely clear, right from the outset, all the
way back in February, that what should be is a ceasefire and
constitutional negotiations between the parties. Back in April and
May, they were even suggesting federalization and decentralization.
So, to argue that it is the Russians who wanted to annex eastern
Ukraine, and Mr. Poroshenko is somehow ruling that out, is simply to
turn reality entirely on its head. And one wonders how long this
could be sustained for anyway. The reality is that decentralization
might have been possible in April and May when the Russians supported
it. It is far less likely when the Russians and the local people no
longer do.
Zakharchenko:
"There is no ceasefire. We don't like many points of the
protocol, but we hoped that [something]."
I
hope there will be a translation of this soon
Denis
Pushilin, former leader of DPR Is back. You will catch the essence
without Russian
"Boris
Pushilin is BACK!!! as one of the political leaders of the Donetsk
People's Republic. He gave today a very informative and solid
situation report to a TV channel. Among other things, he also
informed that, on average, the Nazi junta is killing 30-40 civilians
only in the city of Donetsk every single day with its shelling.
"On
a possibly related topic, Putin's point man for the Ukrainian crisis,
Vladislav Surkov, who is unanimously either hated or despised in
Donbass, is reportedly close to being either fired or sent to do
something else".
---Vladimir
Suchan
"If the ceasefire will not be met, then we will continue the offensive" - Denis Putilin (video)
«Если перемирие не будет соблюдаться, то мы продолжим наступление» — Денис Пушилин (видео)
According to one of the leaders of the DND, in fact, unfortunately, the truce is not respected by the Ukrainian side. Punitive continue to carry out the firing positions of the militia, as well as residential areas and villages of Novorossiya.
All
this shows complete contempt for the Nazis to the American protege,
the so-called Ukrainian President Peter Poroshenko. The junta was
frightened complete defeat, and so went to the signing of the
agreement on cease-fire. If it is not, Mariupol could be completely
cleared of Germans.
"Taruta, the junta's governor for Donetsk, calls for canceling the early parliamentary elections and for a state of emergency/war in Donbass."
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