Thursday, 18 January 2018

More on incoming missiles in Hawaii

Yet another voice that concludes that the “False Alarm” in Hawaii in Saturday was an incoming missile.



Link to Q Posts (not an 8Chan link)

Was there an attempt to start a war either by Israel or a rogue hardline Chinese faction?

This will be hard to accept and will be rejected by so many.

Hal Turner is a bigoted arsehole, I agree, but that does not preclude him from being right on some issues.

This fits in with what has been said elsewhere - that an incoming missile was destroyed, but seemingly not be the United States.

He discusses two competing version of where the missile came from and also the official version of event.

This is true conspiracy THEORISING as there is no proof for anything right now.

Whatever it does seem to imply that someone wants to provoke a war - whether it is Israel, or a rogue faction of the Chinese leadership - or some faction of the American Deep State.

Hal Turner : The "Missile Launch" Warning for Hawaii . . . . inside info on what REALLY happened.

Tonight on The Hal Turner Radio Show, I will provide TWO different reports from DIFFERENT covert Intelligence Sources about what actually took place over the past weekend, causing the Emergency Alert System (EAS) to be triggered, warning Hawaiians to take cover immediately due to an incoming missile attack.

BOTH sources tell me that a missile __was actually__ launched, triggering the EAS.
BOTH sources tell me the missile was fired from a submarine.
BOTH sources tell me the inbound missile was successfully INTERCEPTED.
BOTH sources tell me the submarine which fired that missile was subsequently attacked and destroyed.
Where the sources differ is on WHO fired and WHY they fired.
Both sources provide plausible explanations about why . . .  and both plausible explanations are utterly terrifying: Someone is deliberately trying to start a war.

While we are still on way-out stuff here is some speculation from blogger, Jim Stone which opts for the Israeli explanation.

Just more conjecture



QUESTION: What nation could launch a nuclear warhead at the United States and get away with it? Come on folks, put your thinking cap on. Waiting . . . . . . waiting for an answer . . . . . . waiting . . . . . . .OH, I GOT IT!!!! ISRAEL!!!!!
They needed their false flag and world war 3 to shut Trump down now that he’s the Orkin man after the critters. HEADS UP FOLKS, IT MAY BE GETTING HOT OUTSIDE YOUR WINDOW SOON.
You had better make sure you can at least keep a light on, I did not post that nifty little oil lamp for no reason. HERE IS THE REASON:
Pacific Command detected a missile, those systems DO NOT EVER SCREW UP, which means they shot it down, and it took them 38 minutes to confirm they destroyed the sub and another missile would not be launched, as I reported all along.
I had heard about this transmission going out during a ball game but did not know anyone documented it. Well, it got documented. The earlier post from an anonymous sailor is SPOT ON, I strongly suggest you read it again:

And now, ever since this happened, the MSM, other officials, and even the lower forms of alt media are trying to debunk it. Problem – the captures are real, and the only nation on earth that could have caused it and gotten away with it is Israel.


Hmm, let me guess – They were observing the “anomaly” the whistle blower (below) mentioned that they were already aware of from the day before, had systems locked, activated the anti missile defense system practically instantly, shot down the launched missiles within a minute, killed the sub, AND THEN, 38 minutes later, gave the all clear. How about that for a back story? Obviously it can’t be confirmed, but it sure beats the “bumbling fool” on alert button ludicrosy.

Hawaii update

The new line from the MSM is that the police knew it was a false alarm five minutes after the alert was given. I CALL BUNK, because if that was true, how on earth did the EAS take 33 additional minutes after that to give the all clear? Would they not be the first to know? The police should have gotten the all clear from the EAS. If they did not, who gave them the all clear? It’s not like all the cops have a secret line to military command post X. I CALL BUNK, it is a cover story for something much bigger.

Remember a few years ago when there was aconfirmed missile launch off the coast of California that was also subsequently scrubbed and white washed? It was proven that it was launched by a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, and it got scrubbed by the Pentagon and debunked by Snopes. Yet it was so freaking obvious what it was that no one, even hunch backed emma believed the Pentagon. What happened in California is a SOLID, ROCK SOLID PRECEDENT for there to have been a real missile launch and shoot down off of Hawaii, with subsequent media white wash. You can’t trust a damn thing the media says, they are all a bunch of scamming traitors.
The real back story to the Chinese missile incident is that it was a warning shot to the U.S., to prove China could circumvent detection by the U.S. The missile was fired 30 miles off the coast, and sent on a trajectory that caused it to land 400 miles to the west, in the Pacific. The U.S. claims territorial waters 250 miles out, and China totally violated that but what could the Pentagon do? Encourage them to launch another missile the other way?


“Confident” is the best I can do when it can’t actually be proven. But the back channels of the internet have filled up with massive numbers of trolls that are onto this story like maggots on a rotting dog, trolls that are saying the most stupid things, like “I wonder what nation owned the sub, Paraguay? (as if they are serious) and other absolutely ridiculous crap.

FACT: There is only ONE nuclear nation that has submarines that fit the description that is not Russia or the U.S. and that is ISRAEL.

The banality of the trollage points ONE DIRECTION: ISRAEL.
Naked banal we have seen it everywhere countless times predictable stupid ISRAELI TROLLAGE.
“Now we have to scream “Nazi” sniff, and force Germany to cough us up another sub . . . . . sniff. I was a little bit skeptical of this until I saw the nature of the trollage. Now I am like – “Oh my God!”
14 January 2018

Yesterday’s nuclear launch on Hawaii real? Possibly.

The following is thus far urban myth, but people should be aware of it because it could be true, and is certainly plausible. If a submarine was destroyed, it is overwhelmingly probable for it to have been Israeli.

I have a way to know if this story is true. Israel should have THREE dolphin 2 submarines in 2018. If the years go on and they can only show two, one of them just bit the dust. The Dolphin 2 submarines have air independent propulsion, which gives them a range and endurance second only to a nuclear submarine. One of these could have made it to Hawaii, especially with clandestine surface support.
The possible submarines are: Dolphin, Leviathan, Tekumah, Tanin, Rahav and Dakar (not yet commissioned) with the last 3 having a very large air independent range. People ought to be able to confirm one missing by keeping an extended (years long) eye on Israeli naval bases.

Once again, the above cannot be confirmed true, but it is intriguing to say the least. Keep an eye on Israel’s subs.

Here’s an interesting post on this topic. I’d have to say I agree.
I live on Maui. The “oops” Hawaii ballistic missile alert just doesn’t add up. Think about your job. Imagine the biggest fuck up that you could possibly commit. A fuck up that doesn’t damage your workplace or harm anyone that you work with, or outside of work, but a MASSIVE fuck up none the less. Something that would get you immediately fired and or put in prison even.
What would it take for you to fuck up that bad at your job?? Would it even be possible? Is it something so easily done that would have such catastrophic effects? Is it something so simple as hitting a wrong button and sending an alert to a million plus people? I’m sorry but there are no “buttons” that are set up to do that. I just don’t see this as a big mistake, there’s something more. I’m not sure what but I know it wasn’t just a simple fucking mistake.
A subsequent response:
Head dude was asked if he was there when it all went down. He said no, the system is set up so that no one needs to be there. Kinda contradicted his button pushing story.
BTW, I’m on Kauai – Aloha!
My comment: The cover story really is rock stupid. As if the emergency alert system has a custom “button” for a nuke attack, that automatically sends out a canned message. And that is exactly why the purported whistleblower testimony about a submarine nuke launch is so plausible, it is FAR MORE plausible than an idiotic “oops” story.


Japanese broadcaster NHK released a warning that North Korea had launched a missile at Japan. Probably on purpose to cover for Hawaii
NHK could be compared to ABC News and is not part of the national emergency system. Having them issue a false alert could easily be arranged for a “me too” scenario after what happened in Hawaii. I’m not buying it, no other broadcasters issued an alert, no sirens went off at military bases and no texts were sent to people’s cell phones. This event was only a headline grabber to make people think GEE, MAYBE SOMEONE DID JUST ACCIDENTALLY PUSH A BUTTON IN HAWAII. I am NOT buying it.

My take on what happened with NHK is that Japanese media is as evil as American media and they are working hand in hand now to salvage a false flag prospect over the next few days. The attempt in Hawaii failed, but there are thousands of missiles and nukes, and NHK doing this is going to help salvage prospects of having the public believe a back up plan that has probably now been put into place.

Many are concerned about a big event in the next few days

There are stories going around the web which are spreading rightful concern over whether or not a massive false flag is going to be triggered on the U.S. mainland to prevent Trump from draining the swamp, now that it really is underway. Keep in mind that there have been many prediction dates in the past, but the big difference this time around is that there are indictments actually being issued for uranium one, indictments that are threatening to ravage the heart of the shadow state.Anyone with three milliwatts or more of brain power ought to be able to add this situation up, and see a cause for concern. Yesterday a cryptic meme about various types of poisoning that would work against Trump circled the web, and gave specific details on how to make various poisons quite easily, with the encouragement to try to get it into Trump’s food. It was worded in a way that made it a clear deep state threat and not just an idiot in a basement. It appeared to have been issued by the inner circle. I searched for it today and can’t find it anywhere.
Obvious other concerns are out there, such as nuclear attacks on the mainland but no one has anything solid on any specific threat. I believe we narrowly avoided one recently in Hawaii – Keep an eye on Israel’s subs for that, time alone will tell.
Be prepared.

Calls for a "New California"

New California’ Wants to Break Away From ‘Tyranny’ of California, Create 51st State

17 January, 2017

Over the years, there have been several secession efforts in California aimed away at breaking away from the U.S. government, including one that gained steam following Donald Trump’s election in 2016. So far, none have been successful, but a new declaration from rural communities are now seeking independence not from the U.S., but from California itself.

The State of New California declared its independence from the Golden State this week, citing Article IV, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution as well as the Declaration of Independence. “The current state of California has become governed by a tyranny, which rivals those expressed in the above documents,” the movement writes.

The founders of the new proposed state are committed to following the government’s rules.

We have to demonstrate that we can govern ourselves before we are allowed to govern,” said founder Tom Reed.

According to the group’s press release, “After years of over taxation, regulation, and mono party politics the State of California and many of it’s [sic] 58 Counties have become ungovernable.” They cite a decline in the quality of essential services, including “education, law enforcement, fire protection, transportation, housing, health care, taxation, voter rights, banking, state pension systems, prisons, state parks, water resource management, home ownership, infrastructure and many more.”

There’s something wrong when you have a rural county such as this one, and you go down to Orange County which is mostly urban, and it has the same set of problems, and it happens because of how the state is being governed and taxed,” said founder Robert Paul Preston.

The group asserts it is the “Duty of the People who are suffering the long train of abuses and usurpations at the hands of a tyrannical government to abolish and make New a Government by the People and for the People under GOD.”

Despite the fact that many of their grievances also apply to the U.S. government, the New California effort is only concerned with separating from the coastal urban regions of the state.

To be sure, the California government is highly corrupt and inefficient. To name just a few examples, the state legislature is overwhelmed by special interests, the debt stands at $283.3 billion as of last year, the government has imposed massive taxes on cannabis amid legalization, and agencies throughout the state have failed to represent the people, often siding with corporations that have wreaked havoc on communities and the environment.

Nevertheless, if escaping tyranny is the goal, remaining under the rule of U.S. government may not solve the problem. The newest effort does, however, highlight growing divisions within American society, whether between broad regions of the United States or other segments, such as rural versus urban demographics. These growing divides suggest centralized authority and governance is increasingly difficult to maintain, impractical, and often sows internal contempt.

Regardless, the New California proposal is in its earliest stages, and its organizers told CBS-Sacramentothey won’t be prepared to start engaging with the state legislature for another ten to eighteen months. They would need the approval of both the California and U.S. governments and are currently working to gain the interest of at least 40 counties.

However, this division would mean that old California would have no source of water for our cities without buying it and being subject to regulation of it from the new state. One of the reasons the inland counties are trying to do this is that the farmers don’t like having to share water with the cities. With the ongoing threat of drought, we need to come up with a better system of supply and not penalize the residents of cities and towns with exorbitant prices, which is no doubt what the farmers would do in an effort to cut down usage by the rest of us. Or they would just ration so little that the cities and towns would be unable to provide even a minimum amount of water to the residents and businesses. Either way, it would create an untenable situation.

They need to go back to the drawing board and come up with a better plan.

The founders of the new proposed state are committed to following the government’s rules.

We have to demonstrate that we can govern ourselves before we are allowed to govern,” said founder Tom Reed.

According to the group’s press release, “After years of over taxation, regulation, and mono party politics the State of California and many of it’s [sic] 58 Counties have become ungovernable.” They cite a decline in the quality of essential services, including “education, law enforcement, fire protection, transportation, housing, health care, taxation, voter rights, banking, state pension systems, prisons, state parks, water resource management, home ownership, infrastructure and many more.”

There’s something wrong when you have a rural county such as this one, and you go down to Orange County which is mostly urban, and it has the same set of problems, and it happens because of how the state is being governed and taxed,” said founder Robert Paul Preston.

The group asserts it is the “Duty of the People who are suffering the long train of abuses and usurpations at the hands of a tyrannical government to abolish and make New a Government by the People and for the People under GOD.”

Condemning All Things Russian

Tales of the New Cold War: Condemning All Things Russian

Stephen F. Cohen @NYU@Princeton

(Russia Fears US Missile Attack. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov made the accusation during his year-in-review press conference on Monday, after claiming that the US had rebuffed a joint attempt by Russia and China to strike a wider agreement on the “militarization of space.”)

. . . Two of Obama’s intell chiefs: Brennan said Americans should avoid any contact with any Russian as it might lead down a slope to “treason”; and ___ said in a sort of ethnic slur that Russians are genetically predisposed to infiltrate and [sabotage] the United States. [These are certifiably insane –ed.] Sen Cardin’s false narrative and genuinely fake news. (Bradley Chelsea Manning will run against him.) Fifteen minutes to decide if the threat is real or not; retaliation would be basically the end of humans on Earth. Both the US and Russia could adopt a no-first-use policy on nuclear weapons. Pres Obama initiated the extremely dangerous policy of . . .


U.S. Remains Vulnerable to Russian Interference without Unequivocal Presidential Leadership, Learning Lessons from European Democracies

The undistinguished Sen. Ben Cardin: Russia Is Trying to "Bring Down Our Way of Government… They Want Corruption to Reign"

Senator Ben Cardin, top Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, joined MSNBC's Rachel Maddow Wednesday evening to reiterate the serious threat posed by Russia to American and Western institutions. Earlier that day, Cardin's office had prepared an omnibus report entitled: “Putin’s Asymmetrical Assault on Democracy in Russia and Europe: Implications for U.S. National Security.” The report "finds that President Trump’s refusal to publicly acknowledge the threat posed by the Russian government has hampered efforts to mobilize our government, strengthen our institutions, and work with our European allies to counter Putin’s interference in democracies abroad." "Never before in American history has so clear a threat to national security been so clearly ignored by a U.S. president, and without a strong U.S. response, institutions and elections here and throughout Europe will remain vulnerable to the Kremlin’s aggressive and sophisticated malign influence operations," Cardin's report also adds

Flu epidemic in California

California hospitals face a 'war zone' of flu patients — and are setting up tents to treat them
LA Times,
16 January, 2018

California hospitals face a 'war zone' of flu patients — and are setting up tents to treat them

Ana Oktay rushed to the hospital in late December struggling to breathe, with a 102-degree fever and a cough that wouldn’t let up.

​​​​​She expected doctors to tell her she had pneumonia or bronchitis.

They were just like: ‘It’s just influenza A. It’s just what’s going around,’” said Oktay, 49.

An influenza A strain known as H3N2 is making people so ill in California that thousands have shown up in recent weeks at hospitals struggling to fight the infection.

I was flat on my back and in bed for 10 days,” said Oktay, who lives in Palms. “This has been hands down the worst flu I’ve ever dealt with.”

The huge numbers of sick people are also straining hospital staff who are confronting what could become California’s worst flu season in a decade.

Hospitals across the state are sending away ambulances, flying in nurses from out of state and not letting children visit their loved ones for fear they’ll spread the flu. Others are canceling surgeries and erecting tents in their parking lots so they can triage the hordes of flu patients.

Those are all creative things we wouldn’t typically do, but in a crisis like this, we’re looking at,” said Michelle Gunnett, a nurse who oversees emergency services for a Southern California hospital system.

Staff members at Torrance Memorial Medical Center have been working long hours to care for a swell in sick patients that began in late December, said Dr. James McKinnell, infectious disease specialist. Some patients are incredibly ill with multiple strains of the flu, or the flu and pneumonia.

There’s a little bit of a feeling of being in the trenches. we’re really battling these infections to try to get them under control,” McKinnell said. “We’re still not sure if this is going to continue … but it certainly is an inauspicious start.”

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So many people are showing up sick with the flu that Loma Linda hospital put up this giant tent to treat patients in.
Coping with the crowds

Connie Cunningham and her staff at Loma Linda University Medical Center were triaging so many flu patients after New Year’s that they assembled what looks like a giant, brown camping tent in their emergency room parking lot. Several hospitals in California are treating flu patients in so-called “surge tents” intended for major disasters.

On a recent weekday morning, Cunningham walked through the tent, lined with folding chairs and patient beds that are separated by sheets hung from the ceiling.

Cunningham, executive director for the hospital’s emergency services, said she’d thought they would dismantle the tent after a few days, but staff are still treating 60 more patients each day than usual, she said.

In my career, I’ve never seen anything like this,” she said.

H3N2 is known for being more virulent than other strains of the flu. Since October, 42 people in California younger than 65 have died of the flu, compared with nine at the same time last year, according to state officials. State officials collect flu death data only among people under 65; the actual death toll from the flu is much higher.

Officials say it’s unclear whether the recent upswing in cases means the season is peaking early or this year’s season is just particularly bad. Typically, the flu season, which runs from October through May, reaches its height in February.

It’s like trying to surf a tsunami,” said Dr. Brian Johnston, an emergency medicine doctor at White Memorial Medical Center in Boyle Heights. “Maybe the wave has crested, one hopes.”

Palomar Medical Center Escondido in northern San Diego County also pulled out a flu tent this month, but was still so busy that some patients were treated in the hallways, said Gunnett, a nurse who oversees their emergency services.

Now they’re running low on beds because many patients were admitted with severe flu. Gunnett said she has started canceling scheduled surgeries and turning single-patient rooms into doubles to free up space.

At Good Samaritan Hospital in San Jose, hospital staff noticed flu cases were mounting and began clearing out an area that was being used as storage.

It seems like we’re setting a record almost every day,” said Dr. Dave Feldman, medical director of the emergency department.

On Thursday, the former storage area opened as an extension of the emergency room.

A flu war zone’ in the emergency room

When Candysse Miller took her 88-year-old father, who lives in Redlands, to a nearby emergency room on Jan. 6, it was standing-room only. Many people crammed in the small space were sneezing and violently coughing, she said.

It was like a flu war zone,” said Miller, a writer. “I’m not a germophobe or anything, but that will quickly make you one.”

Some administrators at hospitals with long wait times and crowded ERs have asked people who aren’t severely ill to not seek medical treatment. Others concerned about the spread of illness within their walls have also started restricting who can enter the hospital.

Dominican Hospital in Santa Cruz recently reintroduced rules they hadn’t used since the 2009 pandemic of swine flu, or H1N1. People under 16 — who are considered more likely to spread the flu — aren’t allowed to visit people at the hospital, and patients can have only one visitor at a time, said hospital president Dr. Nanette Mickiewicz.

As we did during H1N1, we pulled out the same policies,” she said. “We’ve been treating almost five times the number of influenza patients that we typically see.”
Many hospitals also say they’re too full to accept any more patients or ambulances.

And when paramedics are allowed to drop off patients at a hospital, the emergency room is often so crowded that there aren’t available staff members to transfer care to. 
So the emergency responders can’t get back on the road to answer incoming 911 calls, said Kay Fruhwirth, L.A. County’s assistant director of emergency medical services.

If there’s not a nurse available, and/or a bed — it’s usually an ‘and’ — they’re waiting there with the patient,” she said.

Healthy people get sick too

Children, elderly people and pregnant women are most at risk of becoming extremely ill if they get the flu, but anyone can get very sick, said McKinnell, of Torrance Memorial.

We have patients every year — young, healthy patients — that end up in the hospital even on a ventilator for months because of influenza,” he said. “It would be foolish for people to think, ‘I’m 40, I’m healthy, I don’t need to worry about influenza’ — that’s not true.”

Doctors say that people who haven’t yet gotten the flu shot should still get it. It takes about two weeks to take effect.

National health officials predict the shot may only be 30% effective this year, though the vaccine can reduce the severity and length of the illness for those who get sick.

In L.A. County alone, “even a 30% effectiveness rate can prevent hundreds if not thousands of hospitalizations, and really save lives,” said the county’s interim health officer Dr. Jeffrey Gunzenhauser.

Already, so many patients have ended up in the Torrance Memorial ICU with the flu that caring for them has taken a toll on staff, McKinnell said.

These people come in very, very sick,” he said. “There’s a lot of emotional stress that goes into that, because you care about your patients, you really want them to survive.”

Impending economic collapse

"Something big is happening in the skies"

Aircraft over America

Looks like confirmation something big is happening in the skies, and likely elsewhere!!

Something else....

RIGHT NOW: Fleet of F-16's Scrambled for night flight from Truax Field in Madison WI
WTF, in my 52 years of life, have NEVER other than 2 days 
before the gulf war, heard a fleet of F16's scramble out of 
Truax AT NIGHT!!!!

Happening right now!!!

Also this - 

Unsubstantiated chatter that the USAF has been
placed on high alert